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Hey everyone,

We had the pleasure of sitting down with one of our friends, Ashwin Sharma, who is a clinician based in the UK and has had extensive experience with telehealth companies.

We connected last year when he read my HIMS short report “HIMS: Napoleon Begins His March Towards Russia?”, which was a top 5 most-read report of ours. We’ve continued to stay in contact over the last half year or so, but I was finally able to bring him in for a public chat regarding the telehealth industry and HIMS specifically.

Take a look at the show notes below, as well as a link to our content and Ashwin's content. I only read two people’s work on GLP-1s religiously, and Ash is one of them, so I highly encourage you to at least check him out.

In this episode of The Investors Corner Podcast by Cedar Grove Capital Management, Chief Investment Officer Paul Cerro welcomes Ash Sharma, writer and founder of the GLP One Digest.

They discuss the evolution and future of telehealth, touching on topics such as consumer health behaviors, limitations and dark sides of telehealth services, and the business model of labs and diagnostics. They delve into the controversial practices within the industry, such as compounded treatments and ethical concerns. The conversation also covers international expansion of telehealth services, particularly in the UK market, and the challenges HIMS is facing with new product offerings.

Finally, they explore the importance of proactive versus reactive healthcare and the impact of technological advancements, such as wearable devices, in promoting healthy lifestyles.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
03:40 Telehealth Evolution and Market Impact
06:49 Limitations and Challenges of Telehealth
14:10 The Dark Side of Telehealth
23:02 Preventive vs. Reactive Healthcare
30:36 HIMS and Lab Biomarkers Discussion
35:18 The Cost of Medical Devices
36:03 Compounding Treatments and Business Strategies
37:34 Diagnostic Blood Tests and Health Anxiety
39:27 The Business of Biomarkers and Medications
41:35 Cancer Diagnostics and False Positives
45:53 New Product Releases: TRT, HRT, and Peptides
54:33 International Expansion and Market Challenges
59:46 Telehealth Industry Insights and HIMS Future
01:03:25 Concluding Thoughts and Recommendations

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